Visual Representation of Errors
- Kosi Kalogerinis
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Visual Representation of Errors
Hello,
Occasionally when getting an error for whatever reason...velocity issues, tape bends etc.... we need to search for these errors via the Goto Coords method. A more user friendly way of doing this would be to have visual markers on the drawing to highlight these errors (a different symbol perhaps for a different error).
I guess something very similar to the highlighted marker that shows outlet connectivity problems.
Occasionally when getting an error for whatever reason...velocity issues, tape bends etc.... we need to search for these errors via the Goto Coords method. A more user friendly way of doing this would be to have visual markers on the drawing to highlight these errors (a different symbol perhaps for a different error).
I guess something very similar to the highlighted marker that shows outlet connectivity problems.
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Re: Visual Representation of Errors
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Re: Visual Representation of Errors
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This would be a real time saver..especially for the design I'm doing now
This would be a real time saver..especially for the design I'm doing now

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Re: Visual Representation of Errors
Hi Kosi/Gennaro
You can use the "hyperlinks" in the warning messages to zoom to the coordinates displayed? There were a couple of omissions when this was enabled (the 487 warning being one) but these have been fixed and will be available in the next version.
I can see some significant problems in using a "connectivity check" approach. Would work fine if all the warnings are the same but not that well in the general case when they all could be different.
You can use the "hyperlinks" in the warning messages to zoom to the coordinates displayed? There were a couple of omissions when this was enabled (the 487 warning being one) but these have been fixed and will be available in the next version.
I can see some significant problems in using a "connectivity check" approach. Would work fine if all the warnings are the same but not that well in the general case when they all could be different.
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Re: Visual Representation of Errors
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Use different symbols for different errors. If your stuck, I can help you with that

Use different symbols for different errors. If your stuck, I can help you with that

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Re: Visual Representation of Errors
A visual showing where the hot spots are (by that I mean pipe with higher than normal velocity readings) would be a lot easier, than going through those reports. A quick visual = a quick fix
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Re: Visual Representation of Errors
It will be great to have some sort of hyperlink or coordinates that takes you to the node/item that has an error. Why can we see a pipe that has not been calculated (no selection) with a link to it when running the analysis, but we do not have the same ability with other error items? The inability to see this waste a lot a time, especially when having a problem on large designs. If there is already a way of finding these items, i would appreciate if someone can let me know. TIA
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Re: Visual Representation of Errors
Hi Theo,
Regards
It's not quite 'visual' in the way you describe, but a similar feature is available in Irricad Link. Link maintains a list of the errors produced by the last executed design process and you can cycle through the list using the IRR_SHOWDESIGNERRORS command (Design|Design Errors menu). If there is a location in the error message, Link will move the design to that point.
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Re: Visual Representation of Errors
In addition to Dan's suggestion about viewing the errors, where IRRICAD knows the location of the error it will provide links in the screen message - simply click to be taken directly to that location:-
Design|Design Parameters|Analysis Parameters - "Info delay time" - the default is 2500 milliseconds. Otherwise, the coordinates can be seen in Reports|View Errors in IRRICAD Standalone or, as Dan has mentioned for Link, via Design|Design Errors. Then use the GoToCoords tool (IRR_GOTO command in IRRICAD Link) to go to the location if required.
In some cases IRRICAD cannot determine the location of the error, or there are multiple locations, and will be unable to provide the link in the error message.
Other methods to help identify issues:-
- Flow and pressure maps, available from the Reports menu
- Hydraulic labelling
- Conditional labelling. For example, if you wish to label all mainline pipes that are over velocity then the label format is #HY_MAX_V>[2.0]#
If TRUE (e.g., the velocity is greater than 2), the label will display the actual velocity and velocity unit (e.g., 2.13 m/s). If FALSE (e.g., the pipe velocity is less than 2) then no label is displayed. For more information see the Release Notes for Version 17 – Label Enhancements.
The IRRICAD Team
To ensure that the error messages stay on the screen long enough see In some cases IRRICAD cannot determine the location of the error, or there are multiple locations, and will be unable to provide the link in the error message.
Other methods to help identify issues:-
- Flow and pressure maps, available from the Reports menu
- Hydraulic labelling
- Conditional labelling. For example, if you wish to label all mainline pipes that are over velocity then the label format is #HY_MAX_V>[2.0]#
If TRUE (e.g., the velocity is greater than 2), the label will display the actual velocity and velocity unit (e.g., 2.13 m/s). If FALSE (e.g., the pipe velocity is less than 2) then no label is displayed. For more information see the Release Notes for Version 17 – Label Enhancements.
The IRRICAD Team
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